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Post by Pete on Mar 31, 2020 23:41:35 GMT
Just a thread to talk turning in these days of lock down. At couple from this forum have been enjoying the live shows of Martin Saban-Smith, Of interest to this Forum will be his talk on the ProEdge on April 7th www.msabansmith.com/corona-schedule/ Website is down as I write this, but he is fixing it so should be back soon. If you are in to wood turning it is better than Coronation street or whatever is on telly. check it out. Discuss it in this thread, or indeed hijack this thread to talk about what you stole from the kitchen to use in your workshop... |
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Post by sulvarbir on Apr 1, 2020 11:47:18 GMT
Pete,
just had a long chat with Martin and he’s doing some housekeeping on the site.
Chris
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Post by sulvarbir on Apr 1, 2020 11:53:54 GMT
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Post by Pete on Apr 3, 2020 22:28:40 GMT
Well Chris I got my certificate, this is the 2 bowls I turned from Martin's lesson... Bronze embellishing wax on Ash, and high gloss on some blank that was knocking around...   Have you done yours yet? |
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Post by Pete on Apr 5, 2020 14:19:27 GMT
This is what I did to the second bowl above, cut the finish off then attempted Thursdays lesson on it... Attachments:
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Post by sulvarbir on Apr 6, 2020 19:54:16 GMT
Hi Pete,
I think it’s turned out really well. Have you done something like this before. Even a makers mark.
I’ve turned a small Ash blank and finished it with the high gloss wax. I’ve ordered a bigger Ash blank from G & S timber, and I’m still waiting for the sample intrinsic colours to come. Probably an Easter weekend project.
II’m just turning a deep splayed Sycamore bowl. Any thoughts on the finish. I’m tempted to Danish oil it and then put a dull wax on it. Not sure if the oil will hide the splatting.
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Post by Pete on Apr 6, 2020 21:35:23 GMT
Hi Chris, First time colouring in this style, have painted some spindles with acrylic or ink, ended up ordering a sample pack of Intrinsic as I was impressed by Martin using the earth dye on the coffee pot, then when I got to the site couldn't decide what to buy so got the sample! this bowl was totally inspired by Martin's video last week. Makers Marks I have been using since January got my foot in the door of a new retailer and they wanted everything branded so I went and bought some enamel coins I do have a pyrography kit I have used, but it has to come off the lathe before polishing, get marked put back on, and I am pretty rubbish at it too... so this was the simple answer. There is also always the hope that someone will think it is collectors items, and I will become super rich and be able to build a bigger workshop!  Oil usually enhances any marks spalting included, personally I am a big fan of just oiled wood either Danish or Lemon, and often do that on small spindle items, but shiny sells better! and I seldom have the time to allow oil to dry fully before waxing it, so it is often either or. To check out the finish put some on the base sanded to about 240, and you will know if you want it on the visible bits! if you don't it can be cut off easily when finishing the bowl. Put the picture up here, this is the anarchy thread especially for entertainment during the lockdown, be excellent to see your work and if you cut it with a Sorby tool it is relevant  Will you be on the Live Stream tomorrow? (ProEdge demo) I have told my wife she has to make her own salad for dinner tomorrow as I will be stuck in front of YouTube |
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Post by sulvarbir on Apr 13, 2020 15:39:18 GMT
Hi Pete, I went with the food safe Danish Oil and the toy and food safe High Gloss wax from Hampshire Sheen. I’m happy with it. |
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Post by Pete on Apr 13, 2020 18:14:18 GMT
Hi Chris, Thank you for posting your pictures. That is a very interesting piece of timber love the pattern and your choice of finish has highlighted that. One thing I would say is gloss shows much better on a curve than a straight, so if I was doing a straight sided bowl I would probably stick with the slightly cheaper Microcrystalline wax, but then I am tight!! Did you catch Martin on Saturdays live stream? I popped in a couple of times while making coffee, but was busy in the workshop, also dropped in on the Tiny Turner stream Saturday evening, but was cooking dinner at the time so didn't see much of it. www.youtube.com/channel/UC5ej8PfAv_VsgfYI5PWZDlg she is making a sphere next Saturday will be worth watching, I am not good at them! Pete |
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Post by sulvarbir on Apr 14, 2020 15:00:53 GMT
Hi Pete,
thanks for the advice re straight sides. I’ll know next time. Is it best I mention I used a Sorby bowl gouge and diamond parting tool!
i saw Martin’s Saturday demo taking a break from doing the garden. I did a one day session with him last year and it was the same thing he taught me. You have to applaud the effort he’s putting in with the camera feeds, infographics etc and before I’m challenged by someone I know he is promoting his products.
i dipped into Emma’s but not for long. I have been watching the A word demos at 4pm which I’ve enjoyed.
My sister in law has given me a load of elm so my next project is to have a go at that. Not seen much on YT about elm so I’m thinking it’s not good for turning but intend to give it a go.
Stay safe.
Chris
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Post by Pete on Apr 14, 2020 16:51:26 GMT
Elm is great timber for turning strong, fairly open grain, and a great dark honey colour I was working a piece on Saturday that was the end of a door lintel in a building that dates it at about 300 years old, bits are rotten but I have worked around that and also used a bit of epoxy where needed to make the coffee grinder in the picture. I have worked old oak fence posts that were easier to cut than this stuff... My ProEdge earned it's money on this project... The centre band is not Elm, being a joint piece I wanted some newer more stable timber there so made an insert for the edge. This one was finished with food safe danish oil inside and liberon sanding sealer topped with cornuba stick wax it is about 100mm diameter. so I could spin it fast enough to use the stick rather than the paste wax. This was cut with a Robert Sorby Bowl gouge, Robert Sorby Spindle roughing gouge, and Robert Sorby fluted parting tool, and as the outside was full of 300 years of grit and grime there were a lot of visits to the Robert Sorby ProEdge.  I think if it wasn't for the Dutch Elm taking out so many trees before YouTube existed you would see a lot of it, sometimes it has a grain pattern similar to English oak, but mostly it resembles the look of an acer, though darker and a lot harder, and of course the trees were massive so large pieces would have been available in the 70's but most of it went for firewood. I have used it for all sorts of projects old timber has been turned into tables / seat bases on Windsor chairs and lots of bowls and other turned items, it is rather nice. Would love to get my hands on some fresh pieces, most of what I have worked has either been from the USA, or old reclaimed bits. I have watched some of the A word video's, but they are pretty poor quality blurred focus etc. which kind of puts me off. I am considering making my own, working out a design for bird nesting boxes that can be turned from unseasoned logs, it has been sent up to the RSPB for approval / modification advice. But am a bit concerned about the lack of film equipment I have available may have to make a few filming from different angles then splice them into a video to pretend I have more than one camera will let you know if I get it made... So you didn't say, have you got your excellent "Extraordinary Excellence in Finishing Certificate" mine is framed and hanging over the workshop doors |
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Post by sulvarbir on Apr 15, 2020 14:42:47 GMT
Hi Pete, thanks for the info on the Elm. I do have a lot of it and my sister in law has more to drop off when the lock down is over. The coffee grinder does look good. I do like Danish Oil as a finish. I've not used the Intrinsic Colours yet. The sample set has turned up but I'm not sure there is enough black to lay down a base coat on the 12" blank I'd ordered. I'm after doing my first wide rimmed bowl and thats were I was going to apply the colour. I'll have to have a ponder on that. Its just to easy to click and order things from the internet  Speaking of which the A word delivery truck may have rocked up half an hour ago and left a large box in the garage. It looked very heavy, turns wood and comes highly recommended! I think producing a YT video would be a good thing. I guess the A word videos are being filmed on a phone. I have suggested they get a GoPro to stabilise the image etc. Both my kids have them(not really kids) which produce some excellent quality videos. I think one of the best YT users I watch form a clean simple production is PF Woodturning. She uses a DSLR and phone occasionally. She is not in the MSS league of production but what she does do well is record a passage and then edit them together. She does a very calm voice over once the video footage is complete. I like the way they come across and some of the pieces she produces are elegant (IMHO) www.youtube.com/channel/UCYjEuaj4FyoZiZxfsrAfitAI will be watching Phil Greenwood tonight to show support fro someone thats having a go in sharing his knowledge. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4WpjAbbx-YStay safe Chris |
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Post by Pete on Apr 15, 2020 15:40:52 GMT
Hi Chris,
How can you be watching YouTube when you have boxes to unpack assemble clean and play with! you probably have your own favourites, but I always use Liberon Lubricating Wax on any surface that things are moving on, especially cast iron it is dry so non sticky protects from moisture and makes toolrests slide up and down the bed easily, as well as wood sliding across the bandsaw table etc.
I just had the Intrinsic sample kit, used much less than half a pot of black on the bowl I did, that was 9" not 12, but you have enough.... just don't sneeze while holding an open bottle (I did with burnt orange, that shirt will never be clean again!)
Now you have a more efficient production machine, I expect you to be knee deep in shavings most of the time!!! have fun
Pete
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Post by sulvarbir on Apr 15, 2020 16:45:42 GMT
Pete, I have unwrapped it but think I need a couple of mates to lift the headstock which is a problem. It seems there are four cables going into the lathe bed. If they disconnect, it shouldn’t be a problem and could probably move it myself. i have spoken to Ax & suggested they need to upgrade their destructions & images. I’m not keen to start disconnecting the electrics though. Chris |
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Post by Pete on Apr 15, 2020 17:45:58 GMT
No don't disconnect the electrics, the cables are quite long put the headstock in the right place maybe raised a bit on a block off the ground then put the bed in place before lifting the headstock. It will take 2! I moved mine from the van to the workshop at the bottom of the garden in a wheelbarrow, then bought a new wheel as it destroyed to one that was in it!
I did mine on my own, but it was a struggle.
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