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Post by tooljoe on Mar 24, 2020 18:03:25 GMT
When I set the tool rest angle to 90 degrees, it's unusable because the rest is so close to the belt and backing bar. The gouge jig won't even traverse in the tool rest channel because it hits the backing bar. I don't see any way to adjust the distance other than by changing the angle. Any ideas? Faulty jig? Faulty tool rest? Some adjustment I'm missing? Thanks.
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Post by Pete on Mar 24, 2020 23:21:06 GMT
Hi Tooljoe
You should never be sharpening a gouge at 90° so it doesn't need to fit, it is only for shear scrapers.
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Post by tooljoe on Mar 25, 2020 0:37:54 GMT
Actually, the Robert Sorby ProEdge video shows using the 90 degree angle to form the “horseshoe” chisels before sharpening at 45 degrees. I don’t think you’ve addressed my main point—at 90 degrees, there is no space between the tool rest and the belt. Since the instruction video demonstrates this angle can be used, and should be in certain applications, and mine cannot be used. I can only conclude I am unaware of some adjustment, or have a faulty jig or tool rest.
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Post by Pete on Mar 25, 2020 9:23:47 GMT
There is no adjustment, at 90° the table should be very close but not touching the belt, On mine I could not use 90° with the thicker diamond belt, but can with the standard belts. So if the belt is an original Sorby standard Ceramic or Zirconium belt it should just fit at 90° and you should be able to turn it by hand without fouling the table. Th V block is used as a square when producing the horseshoe to repair a damaged gouge, The gouge is upside down on the table not on the V Block, I have done this once after hitting some barbed wire embedded in a piece of wood, and I found I could fit the V Block on at 90° one way round but not the other. What I can't remember is if I put the V Block on with a 60 grit belt and made it fit! Or if it just did fit! Being more scientific about this, if the table doesn't touch the belt try your V Block in the slot and look to see if it is flush with the front of the table or overhanging slightly, If overhanging then turn it around see if it works that way. There is no need to move across the belt when repairing a gouge with the horseshoe method, you only need the V Block to be sure your gouge is presented square and should be removing the minimum amount to repair the damage. In short, The table needs to just clear the belt, if you can't turn the belt by hand without it grinding the edge off the table then there is a problem, possibly with the belt being too thick, if you have another belt try that. I know without looking it wont work with the diamond belt, and suspect that it may not with the Trizact belts either. If that works you don't have a problem with your ProEdge if not take some pictures and email them to Robert Sorby on sales@robert-sorby.co.uk for technical advice they are usually very good and reply quickly. Obviously there may currently be a time delay due to Covid-19 issues. Just for the record, I do not work for Robert Sorby, I am just a turner who has a lot of their tools, and volunteered to moderate this forum when Jeff Ferris stepped down, as it is a resource I want to use myself. This means I only have my own ProEdge and belt collection to work with.
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Post by francis on Mar 25, 2020 11:42:57 GMT
I concur - turning the vblock around can sometimes adjust the gap as the cross bar is not perfectly in the middle of the block
also on belt thickness I use the ali oxide belts once I have my gouges set up - the trizac belt is a bit tight in there and it has "brush" the block a bit
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Post by sulvarbir on Mar 26, 2020 16:12:57 GMT
Hi slightly off topic but Martin Saban Smith is doing a live demo see below & there will be an opportunity to ask questions.
orby ProEdge Live YouTube Demo When Tue 7 Apr 2020 19:00 – 22:30 United Kingdom Time
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Post by Pete on Mar 26, 2020 22:48:37 GMT
Hi Sulvarbir
I watched him doing a demo I think it was at Yandles, he is good, can you post web link for joining the live demo.
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Post by sulvarbir on Mar 27, 2020 12:40:20 GMT
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Post by sulvarbir on Mar 28, 2020 14:46:22 GMT
So Pete will chit chat have some tales of Intrinsic colours. I enjoyed the burl platter.
KR’s
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Post by Pete on Mar 28, 2020 20:03:23 GMT
Yes I think it may I just ordered the sample pack, I pick up colours every time I am in Yandles, but then think to myself, what would you do with that, and put it back! BUT I have a large amount of white wood in stock at the moment and it needs something to make it pop. See you online Tuesday?
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Post by sulvarbir on Mar 29, 2020 13:27:17 GMT
Hi Pete,
Yes I’ll be there.
I’m still trying to master the turning so the colouring will have to wait.
I did a days course at Martins last year and he was a really nice guy.
Stay safe
Chris
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Post by laymarcrafts on Mar 30, 2020 9:43:44 GMT
This thread appears to have been hijacked.
I see a Moderator is also in on the act.
Surely this is not acceptable.
Richard
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Post by Pete on Mar 30, 2020 9:59:12 GMT
This thread appears to have been hijacked. I see a Moderator is also in on the act. Surely this is not acceptable. Richard Hi Richard, Yes the thread diverted but in my defence... a) ToolJoe had a direct answer before the hijack. b) The hijack was relevant to the question as having been involved in the Live Stream I can say that it would be worth all ProEdge users tuning into. c) This forum all to often is dry and in need of interaction. If Tooljoe comes back and is concerned about the diversion I will delete the non relevant answers (one of only a few Moderator powers open to me, mostly it is to read and answer).
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Post by CjtheScot on Apr 1, 2020 15:17:53 GMT
Returning to the original question. I had the same problem with the 90’ block. I turned it upside down, ground a little off the ends and solved the problem.
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Post by Pete on Apr 1, 2020 16:11:29 GMT
Good to know Cj, I don't suppose you looked or remember if the v block protruded over the edge of the table in one or both orientations? but also presume the table itself cleared the belt by a small amount.
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