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Post by phoneman on May 29, 2019 21:10:22 GMT
I am starting to learn about turning scrapers. I understand that the negative rake (added bevel on the top) allows the scraper to be used level instead of pointing slightly downward. This seems advantageous to me.
My question is what is the advantage of using a traditional scraper instead of a negative rake version?
Thanks.
phoneman
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Post by Pete on May 29, 2019 23:49:24 GMT
Hi Phoneman
I personally am not a great fan of scrapers, but they do have a place especially round nose for finessing the internal curve on a bowl. Traditionally this would entail a slightly above center line toolrest and a slight 'trail' of the square topped scraper by raising the handle. This works, but can easily rip out end grain, and get the angle wrong and a catch is on it's way.
The basic science of the negative rake is a very small bevel on the top of the tool lowering the cutting edge, this allows the toolrest to be on the center line, the handle to run parallel to the lathe and still be cutting in a trail cut below the center line. Which I personally think fits the muscle memory better so produces a smoother movement hence less grabby cuts and less risk of a catch.
I do feel than a traditional grind on around nose scraper is possibly better when using it in a shear scrape method, though that could just be the way I was taught!
For me scraping is a bad thing, only to be used where better cuts are not working for you, so some of my scrapers have not been sharpened in years (well months up to a year probably) I strongly suspect that in 12 months time I will only have negative rake with something like a 5degree top bevel.
Not really an answer, I think the bottom line is someone has improved the standard scraper grind by making it fit with users muscle memory better and maybe the top bevel however small starts the curl of the shaving keeping the catch risk minimized.
Pete
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Post by phoneman on May 30, 2019 1:27:36 GMT
Thanks, Pete. Busy evening; I'll write more tomorrow. phoneman
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Post by phoneman on Jun 2, 2019 21:25:43 GMT
Thanks, Pete. I appreciate your sage advice. The older I get, the more fascinated I become with how I (we) learn. Deep down, I perceive the wisdom of what you say. I often say the same kind of advice to new Tormek users. As a new turner, I need to listen.
Ken
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