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Post by rjmolloy on Oct 26, 2018 15:17:36 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to get clear in my head the relative capabilities of the RS200KT Multi Tip Hollowing Tool and the Sovereign Ultima Hollowing System. Is one made for, or better for, certain kinds of work? What is the advantage of owning either one or both of these tools?
Thanks, Bob
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Post by Pete on Oct 27, 2018 19:38:02 GMT
You will need a swan neck type tool for deeper hollowing through narrow neck, I use both depending on the job, but there are quite a few systems and some suit the user and job more than others.
If you are in a club of any sort then put the word out see which you can borrow, and find what suits you before buying.
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Post by Clive Brooks on Oct 29, 2018 7:07:03 GMT
Hi rjmolloy...As always some great advice from Pete....Robert Sorby has a huge range of hollowing tools depending on what hollowing you want to do. As Peter suggests, see if you can try the RS200KT and the Ultima as well as others from our range to see what suits you, then you will have a better idea which to spend your money on. If you are going to the Harrogate show in a few weeks time,come onto our stand and either ask for me or any of our other members of staff will be able to go through the choice we have available. ..cheers
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Post by Pete on Oct 29, 2018 14:49:33 GMT
Been mulling this question over a bit more while using the 200kt today.
I learned turning at a club local to me (Max Cary Trust) and one issue I found was that all the lathes were just a bit low for me causing me to bend to use them, while mine at home is on 4" timbers to make it more comfortable. I had the opportunity while training to borrow and try out a range of different tools both style and brand, and on a range of items some hollow forms can be achieved with a standard spindle gouge, and are made much easier with the correct tools others are impossible without specialist (bent!) tools which the Ultima System is great at.
To be honest within reason height often makes little difference unless you are stood at the lathe for 8 hours at a time, that is with most tools! hollow form is a bit different, you need to achieve some strange contortions to reach inside the neck of a vase to hollow it out! this is not much problem but if you are already bending (probably also true of stretching) to the lathe you may well find yourself struggling with many tools that others get on with.
So I stick by my advice to see what you can borrow and try out, as nothing will get you to collect more tools than trying them! And also encourage you to take up Clive's offer of attending Harrogate or a convenient show that has a Sorby stand take in a sketch of the hollow form type you are aiming at and talk it over with people who use the various tools.
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Post by rjmolloy on Oct 30, 2018 5:01:12 GMT
Thanks very much for the good advice. I think Harrogate is probably a bit far from New Jersey for a weekend trip.
Bob
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Post by Pete on Oct 30, 2018 10:33:47 GMT
LOL, yep maybe a bit of a trip... then you are back to seeing what tools you can borrow, highly recommended that you do this, even if it means finding and joining a club, or if you have a local Sorby dealer or show you can get to then as I said tell them what you are after!
If none of that is possible then I have to say I seldom do large hollow forms, frequently do small ones and for ease of use efficiency and probably because it's on the rack not in the cupboard the RS200 gets the most use. If I am doing a hollow form that requires a swan neck then the Ultima comes out, though the Ultima could do both jobs extremely well, and if I had to choose only one then it would possibly be the winning choice, I am a self confessed tool addict, so I choose both and the RS gets picked up much more frequently.
Just to clarify I don't work for Robert Sorby, I was introduced to their products early on with the Patriot Chuck, then tried a number of different cutting tool manufacturers kit, and discovered a preference for the weight / balance of the Robert Sorby gouges and other cutting tools, and over the years I have pretty much gone exclusively with their products. Other hollowing systems exist and are rated by their owners, I have tried some of them, they work some work very well but I choose to stick with the tools I know.
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Post by rjmolloy on Nov 2, 2018 15:51:42 GMT
Thanks. I am new at this woodturning thing, but I am enjoying it. Years ago, when I first bought a lathe, I bought a basic set of Robert Sorby tools. I never did much with it, but now that I'm retired I'm trying to make up for lost time. As I am also a tool junkie, I have considerably broadened my collection but have stayed with Robert Sorby tools exclusively (including the ProEdge Sharpening System). I do have the RS200KT and a swan neck tool so I'll give those a go. I'm sure that, as I have very little control over it, I'll also end up with the Ultima system one day.
Again, thanks for your thoughts and advice.
Bob
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Post by admiral34sbd on Dec 14, 2019 20:44:29 GMT
I've bought the RS200 hollowing system in October along with the cove and bead cutters. I've been practicing with all the cutters (read: playing) and Ive had some fun! I've made a beehive and all of the coves and beads are identical in size and depth!! My problem? I've stripped the smaller of the two machine screws that came with the tool (Allen wrench) and I'm having difficulties finding a replacement here in northern Canada. Can anyone provide me with exact description of this machine screw?
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Post by Pete on Dec 14, 2019 21:11:48 GMT
98% certain it is a 4mm metric machine screw I switched mine to Torx bit screws many years ago. However it is dark wet and cold outside and I am in a nice warm kitchen! If I am wrong I will correct the post tomorrow when I am out in the workshop
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