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Post by Derwendolly on Nov 15, 2018 12:33:18 GMT
I have a number of unused and as new RS gouges ( bought for one of my '7-day wonder hobbies' ) which I got out ready to sell on, when, unfortunately, I noticed that on a couple of them the 'brass ferule?' around the handle where the blade goes in have split! Anyone know why this has happened and are these replaceable? They are still in their original sleeve packaging. I have called these brass bits ferules as I have absolutely no idea what they are called! Last question would it be better to sell as they are with the split or 'repaired by me - not very good at it. |
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Post by Pete on Nov 15, 2018 17:11:47 GMT
This is very unusual! I have a lot of original Sorby handles, plus many I have made myself some with copper tubing from the pluming department some with brass ferrules I have picked up when at shows for use as and when. Never seen a split one yet! The only reason for them to split is if the wood swells e.g. by getting very wet, but the force needed seems unlikely. Any chance you could upload a photo of them, also if you are selling then where are you and how much :-) Finally as your last 4 words indicate a lack of confidence... and the possibility that the handles are damaged to cause the splits I would sell un-repaired putting the responsibility for safe use on the purchaser. OR give the hobby another 7 day chance, you can start by making some handles.  n.b. to upload photo's if you click the reply button rather than quick reply you get a menu of options including upload image. |
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Post by Derwendolly on Nov 15, 2018 19:32:48 GMT
They have never got wet. They have been stored in a large, 'plastic play box' in a container storage unit until recently when I brought the 'playbox' home and that is where they have remained.
I will endeavour to put up a couple of photos to show what has happened. ( I hope! )
...... That hasn't worked! I will have to go back to the drawing board and try again! .. back later. |
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Post by Derwendolly on Nov 15, 2018 20:08:07 GMT
No, I give up. All I am getting posted is a tiny cross!
Cheers,
Shirley
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Post by Pete on Nov 15, 2018 21:40:49 GMT
No, I give up. All I am getting posted is a tiny cross! Cheers, Shirley  My bad... Sorry... You need to have a picture file of less than 1Mb, so it may need editing if its taken on most phones / cameras. and you have to click Add Attachment at the top right and then once it has uploaded click INSERTOUT of interest, are they split top to bottom of the ferrule? if so which end is the widest in the split? handle or blade. wondering if a heavy weight has been put on them forcing the blade to bend in relation to the handle. if so roll the tool on a flat surface see if the handle turns inline or oscillates, if the latter then they may be bent which would make them a bit dangerous to use. |
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Post by Derwendolly on Nov 15, 2018 23:13:43 GMT
Right, armed with that new info, Ill have another go tomorrow - in bed at the moment!
The split is just the metal ferrule and this split is even from top to bottom. There is absolutely no damage to either handle or blade just the metal band split apart. Very strange. There really should have been no possibility of damage by a heavy weight as all the tools were simply placed loosely in the storage box - about 12/15 of them, all together and were not tightly packed. I will test them all tomorrow as you have suggested to make sure there is no 'wonky' movement. They do look very straight and as new. Interestingly, one of the split ones is the biggest, strongest one of the selection - a bowl gouge!
I'll get back to you tomorrow late pm. with my results …. and, hopefully, the photos.
Shirley
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Post by Pete on Nov 16, 2018 15:26:56 GMT
It surely is a puzzle, that band of brass is pretty strong. Looking forward to the pictures to see if there are any clues! May also be interested in buying them if you are in the UK and looking to sell. I make a lot of the handles for myself so broken bits are not an issue as long as the tool is straight. Though I do think you should have another go before selling  |
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Post by derwendolly on Nov 16, 2018 15:51:24 GMT
I am here but I just can't remember how to reduce the file size!! Age doesn't help, but lack of using the knowledge is also to blame. If it is possible, I could send the pictures by email  ?? |
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Post by derwendolly on Nov 16, 2018 17:37:55 GMT
I am so sorry but I just can't post the photos. The tools are definitely going to be sold as they really are no use to me. After my epic fail at woodturning, not helped by the emigration of the person who was my teacher/ mentor, and his sudden and unexpected death, I will not be returning to it. What I have done is buy a small hobby lathe and a set of micro tools and learned to make lace bobbins which I use in one of my other hobbies. These were expensive tools, some makes more than others and have not been used, but the splits in the ferrules make it difficult to even set a price. I am not expecting to make my fortune but neither do I want to 'give' them away. I have done as you suggested and can confirm that, as far as I can ascertain, there is no sign of them running untrue. This makes it more difficult to understand why it has happened. In all, there are 10 gouges - 4 RS, 4 House of Woodturning, 2 Crown - and a set of 3 Record Power tools (RP CHS 3 Professional spindle Collection). RSorby 842LH 1/2 Bowl Gouge ( split ferrule) 809H 3/4" Oval Skew ( split ferrule) 832H 2mm Fluted Parting tool 842 1/2" Fingernail Gouge. House of Woodturning HSS 1/4 6mm HSS 1/4 ? Scraper? HSS 1 - 25mm ?? Scraper? Cryo ( split ferule ) HSS 3/4 - 19mm Scraper? (split ferrule ) Crown Both notched-shaped ends, one rounded and one straight, but I haven't a clue what they are!! Bowl rims?? There is also a Technatool SuperNova2 Chuck. Complete. Size 1" x 8. It was left on my lathe as I didn't know how to remove it and had to wait for the return 'holiday break' of my mentor. I just gave up and did not use the lathe. I have full pictures of everything but just can't get them on here. I live in SA20 area. |
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Post by Pete on Nov 16, 2018 20:09:47 GMT
Hi
Email me the pictures pete@twistedtrees.co.uk, I don't need any of the tools as such, as I already have tools in those sizes. But I am in this for the long term, so will need them in a few years when mine are worn out. If nothing else I may be able to help you sell them.
The House of Woodturning (HoW) is a brand I think supplied by the USA company Craft Supplies, but they seem to be long gone only website I could find them on in the UK was second hand ones (7 RS and HoW) for £100 but no information on the HoW, The crown tools sound like they may be bead scrapers, send me a picture and I will confirm what they are.
I am in Bristol so not too far away for a collection if we can agree a price.
Pete
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Post by Pete on Nov 17, 2018 18:54:09 GMT
Shirley sent me some photo's I have edited these together and made them fit the forum! I am at a loss on explanations, they are not from one set with a faulty batch of ferrules not even the same brand, have any of you seen this before? or got any ideas to explain it?  |
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